The source alleged that Coulson had personally listened to messages obtained through phone hacking. And that just didnt happen. Theres also one thats totally out of your control and that is random violence. And as a result of that I met a large number of prisoners because I was helping them put their CVs together. Andy: Dangers of drug smuggling and all manner of other suggested uses for books. Andy: There were a lot of politics in it. Discover Andy Coulson's Biography, Age, Height, Physical Stats, Dating/Affairs, Family and career updates. Now, she already knew about it, but having it made public was not easy, of course, and then you went to prison. He thankfully survived and is perfectly fit and well now, but it was touch and go for a while and ask me those moments, you know, when your son is going into an operating theatre, compare that moment with the moment of going through the green door that I described; there is no comparison. I want to focus on what we dont know, which is obviously the theme of this podcast, and how you handled that crisis point of your life and, of course, the effect that it had on your family. And that was corrosive. And that was partly necessary, just from a practical point of view, but it was also definitely a coping mechanism as well. Andy: Probably a bit of both. Former News of the World editor Rebekah Brooks had an affair with former News of the World editor Andy Coulsonboth of whom are pasty, married to other people, and currently on trial for. Very hard to get it down to 10 songs, let alone get it down to one, but I think if I had to choose one it would be Keep Your Head Up by Ben Howard, which is a bit of a family anthem. Do you feel the need to sometimes wear that like a badge, to own it in certain situations? BirthName, Nickname, and Profession So first, let's take a look at some personal details of Andy, like name, nickname, and profession. [58], Coulson's trial over the phone-hacking claims started in October 2013. Its an unnatural thing to do to relive your life and, by the way, if all you are doing is reliving your life through a negative prism, its a fundamentally unhealthy thing to do. Getty Images offers exclusive rights-ready and premium royalty-free analog, HD, and 4K video of the highest quality. The two others, well one of them got dropped and one I was acquitted, but thats the system. Actually, in the conversation with Chris Lewis we were discussing this. I think woe is me are probably the three most useless words in any event. Obviously, I knew nothing about it other than the fact that it was a D-Cat and therefore would be better than where I was. Jane: Another clich is that you never know what youve got until theres a danger that you might lose it, which must have been a very real possibility in terms of your marriage in your own head. Its hopeless. 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So, when you came back after being found guilty and before going back to be sentenced, you had that time at home. And the other, in the same way as I have just said that I got enormous enjoyment from the political job, there is also a danger that because my newspaper career ended so badly, that you, sort of, chuck out all the good stuff there. "[31] According to Chris Bryant MP, senior officials working with Coulson believed that he had the same clearance level as his predecessor. The judge added that it was for him, and not the jury, to decide on this aspect of the case and that the Crown's legal submissions had failed to satisfy him that Coulson's evidence had been sufficiently relevant to the Sheridan trial. Mar 2016 - Oct 20182 years 8 months. In 2001, in the run up to the general election, he asked Tony and Cherie Blair whether they were members of the mile high club. Those were my choices and when you take jobs like that, people are going to form a view. And Ive got to be honest with you, I think that is a change in me because as a newspaper editor, particularly, you are very judgemental. And the Old Bailey is a court that is straight out of central casting. [49], The Guardian reported on 7 July 2011 that Coulson was to be arrested the following day, along with a senior journalist whom the paper refused to name. Lots of people were sending me books and I wasnt allowed to have them because they were, I thought rather ridiculously, banned at that stage by a former colleague of mine, Chris Grayling. Its proper drama. [8] He was detained and charged with perjury by Strathclyde Police on 30 May 2012 in relation to evidence he had given in the trial of Scottish politician Tommy Sheridan in 2010, and cleared on 3 June 2015. There was no brutality about it at all. So your boys did come to Belmarsh? Shes just not got a bitter bone in her body. There were a few of those who ran away from the gunfire. And I talked them through it and I explained that Id been found guilty and that Id be going to a prison and then Id be moved at some point to an open prison and then they could come and see me. And so invariably youre stood behind another prisoner as he makes his call and the amount of times that that prisoner would then turn away from the phone with tears streaming down his face was frequent. Its not on my record. Andy: Well it came very suddenly. I just wanted to see them. There are a lot of very bad people in there and there are also a lot of people like me who are transiting, if you like. Andy: Well, I think because of the podcast series. [16][17] This trial started on 11 May 2015 because of the general election. Take control of what you actually have control over and, of course, the main thing that you have control over is your own mind-set and your own attitude. Andy: Yeah, yeah. Everything is there in that book and its a cracking read. Andy: Yeah, definitely. [15] Other defendants were cleared. Jane: Hard not to be, though, I would have thought. "[53] These charges were made about 1 year after the Metropolitan Police Service reopened its dormant investigation into phone hacking,[54] about 3 years after the then Assistant Commissioner of the Metropolitan Police Service told the Commons Culture, Media and Sport Committee that "no additional evidence has come to light,"[55] 5 years after Coulson and News International executives began claiming that phone hacking was the work of a single "rogue reporter,"[56] 10 years after The Guardian began reporting that the Met had evidence of widespread illegal acquisition of confidential information,[57] and 13 years after the Met began accumulating "boxloads" of that evidence, including sources for News of the World journalists while Coulson was editor, but kept it unexamined in trash bags at Scotland Yard. But no, certainly not in this kind of context. Andrew Edward Coulson (born 21 January 1968) [2] [3] is an English journalist and political strategist. I was really concerned. [1][65], English journalist and political strategist, Conservative Party communications director, Downing Street Director of Communications. He attended high school in Chapel Hill, North Carolina, where his father was a professor at nearby Duke University. Jane: You dont really talk about yourself very much. Im undoubtedly happier. [9][10][11][12], In June 2014 at the Old Bailey, Coulson was found guilty of a charge of conspiracy to intercept voicemails (phone-hacking). Andy: No, as I say, only during the course of a very long trial in the Old Bailey where I answered every question, I gave full evidence and answered every question that was asked of me by a fair number of lawyers and a judge. I was an ex-Murdoch employee in government and a lot of people really didnt like that and saw a lot of conspiracies within that, that I was some kind of stooge, which I absolutely was not. Jane: So, lets sort of go back in time a bit. Andy Coulson IBM z Specialist at IBM Edinburgh, Scotland, United Kingdom 2K followers 500+ connections Join to connect IBM University of Wales, Cardiff About IBM Mainframe Systems and Security. Simple as that, and theres a lot of that that goes on. (listen here). The court felt that they could deal with it so thats where that ended. What was that like? Without any shadow of a doubt, as a couple and as a family. And I could equally say, why on Earth did you do that, Andy? That never happened to me. Now, I dont recall seeing one of you. There were mistakes made during my time at the News of the World, without any shadow of a doubt, but my 20s were professionally rewarding, fascinating and fun and newspapers were I cant speak for now because Ive been out of them for so long a very exciting place to be. Youve got to accept it, your good decisions and your bad decisions, and you have just got to move forward so trying to unpick in the past ask me from the point of a mental health issue, if you like, without doubt the most damaging, corrosive thing, is that reliving the past. I think there are probably people who think that I should still be in prison. There are probably people out there who maybe even think worse, but there is nothing I can do about that. The saddest thing in prison is when youre queuing up for the phone, because thats how the system works, you have to wait to be able to use the phone. I got my head around it pretty quickly and what I kind of understood fairly swiftly is that the thing that should make you nervous about being in prison is violence, obviously. Why the Conservative machine turns a blind eye to racism, Memo to Labour: make local politics a national issue, If anti-semitism isnt challenged then the fight against racism is doomed, Netflixs endless cancellations signal the end of the prestige streaming TV era, The best holiday cottages for a stunning UK minibreak, Podcast episodes to make you more productive in 2023, Vivienne Westwood didn't just make British fashion she was British fashion, The 15 most anticipated TV series of 2023, from, Print copies & Digital access for only 1. And I thought to myself, Serco are rubbish at security but absolute bloody masters of irony. Therefore, the search process before you come in for a visit, as a visitor, is pretty unpleasant. 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